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Interview with Trōv founder and CEO Scott Walchek

Interview with Trov founder and CEO Scott Walchek
Written by Roger Peverelli

Roger Peverelli and Reggy de Feniks talk to Trōv founder and CEO Scott Walchek about what inspired him to create the on-demand insurance platform.

DIAmond Award winner Trōv is one of the most widely referred-to cases when speaking about disruption in the insurance sector. But what is Trōv exactly about? What is the business model? How successful is it? Trōv’s founder and CEO Scott Walchek will share his vision in a keynote presentation at DIA Amsterdam in May. To warm up, we interviewed Scott last week.

A little background first … Trōv is the world’s first on-demand insurance platform for single items. It’s a mobile app that allows users to insure whatever and whenever. It empowers customers to insure “just the things you care about” for whatever period they prefer. Trōv users simply snap a picture of a receipt or the product code of a product. This creates a personal digital repository for all things tangible. For selected items, Trōv offers a quote to insure each individual item. Customers can then “swipe to protect” to purchase the insurance. It’s equally simple to “swipe to unprotect”. With Trōv, long contracts aren’t necessary. Even the claims process is automated with the use of chatbots and available on-demand on a smartphone.

Trōv is founded by Scott Walchek. Scott is a successful technology entrepreneur. Over the past 25 years, he built companies such as Macromedia, Sanctuary Woods, C2B Technologies and DebtMarket. He was also a co-lead investor and founding director of Baidu, China’s largest search engine.

Scott is also one of the 75 thought leaders that contributed to our new book‘Reinventing Customer Engagement. The next level of digital transformation for banks and insurers’.

What inspired you to create Trōv?

Trov founder and CEO Scott WalchekAt some point, I realised there is an enormous latent value in the information related to the things people own. From obvious things such as receipts and warranties, to actually having an overview of what you own and what the current replacement value of each item is. We want to curate ways to turn this into value for consumers. From keeping information on items up to date to, for instance, arranging insurance for these items.

We’re a technology company, not an insurance company. We’re new in this space. So I started with testing our first ideas about a proposition and the assumptions behind it with several senior executives of large P&C insurers such as AIG and ACE. What I assumed is that at the end of the day the core metric of success is the ratio of insurance to actual value. The better this ratio, the better the balance sheet.

Of course, this is an oversimplification, but everyone agreed that in essence this is how over the past 200 years value in insurance is created. What’s remarkable is that insurers don’t really know what consumers own and what the exact value of these goods is. What if they did know? This would disrupt markets. It would lead to much better risk assessment driven by real knowledge of the true value of what people really own.

Trōv’s main target users are millennials, a target segment that most incumbents find very difficult to reach and engage with. Why does Trōv strike the right chord among this generation?

We’re in the Australian market for a year now and entered the UK market a few months ago. Around 75% of our users are aged between 18 and 24. It appears that we’re successful in tapping into the specific needs of this group. We do this by explicitly tapping into four key millennial trends. The first is on-demand. We can see that from how millennials consume entertainment, shopping, and so on. Services need to be “now, 24 hours a day, and on my device”.

The second trend is don’t lock me into a lengthy contract. We enable micro-duration. Customers can turn their insurance on and off as they see fit. In practice, they hardly do, but it’s about the psychological benefit of being able to do so.

The third is what we call unbundled convenience: “Let me choose what to protect, the things I really care about.”

The fourth is people/agent optional. Millennials want to engage with their smartphone without having to talk to an actual person.

Trōv is based in the San Francisco Bay Area, but you decided to launch first in Australia and the UK. Why there?

(Laughs) There’s a linear story and a nonlinear story to that! The linear story is that micro-duration is still new to the industry, so our hypothesis requires testing. The regulatory environment is important if you want to get to market fast. Australia and the UK have a single regulatory authority versus the 56 bodies in the United States. But we’re also in the process of filing in the US.

The nonlinear story is that I just happened to meet Kirsten Dunlop, head of strategic innovation at Suncorp Personal Insurance at a conference in Meribel in France. She immediately understood the strategic impact of Trōv and that’s when it took off.

Since the Trōv concept is so new to consumers, it must be extremely interesting to learn what exactly strikes the right chord …

Customers just love the experience. Our NPS is +49. However, we’re learning every day. With a completely new concept such as Trōv, it’s impossible to know exactly what to expect, honestly. It turns out that Trōv reveals new consumer insights. There’s still a significant number of valuables that our audience wants to insure, but that we cannot provide a quote for, for instance. Although more than 60% never turns off an insurance, the ability to ‘switch’ an insurance on and off turns out to be an important psychological benefit. This appears to be category-dependent. Sporting goods are switched on and off more often than smartphones and laptops.

We’re constantly measuring and improving every step of the funnel, from leaving Facebook to downloading the app, to registration, to actual swipes. We will share concrete numbers on uptake and conversion rates at DIA Amsterdam, but to already share two big learnings: We designed Trōv for use on smartphones, but much to our surprise funnel figures multiplied when we decided to add a web interface, and we’re actually even attracting better quality customers.

How Trov works

In Australia, you decided to partner with Suncorp, in the UK with AXA, and in the US with Munich Re. What are the success factors of a partnership between an insurtech and an incumbent?

At the end of the day, it’s about relationships and people. We understand their internal challenges. Everyone agrees that real knowledge of individual insured goods and the actual value of those goods improves the loss ratio, but we need to figure out how this works exactly through experimentation. This requires internal dedication, throughout the whole organisation, starting at the top. It’s not about conducting small pilots, but the willingness to experiment while going all the way, investing for several years and learning as we go what insurance will look like in the future and how consumers want to engage.

What are your future plans and ambitions with Trōv? We can imagine that Trōv could also be an interesting partner for retailers and producers of durables. With Trōv they could seamlessly sell insurance …

We have three lines of business. The first is what we call “solid”. This is about expanding the Trōv app geographically, covering more categories and continuously developing the technology. Trōv will be launched in Japan, Germany and Canada shortly. Then there’s “liquid”, offering white label solutions to financial institutions (for instance, in relation to connected cars and homes). The third line of business is “gas” – basically Trōv technology embedded in other applications; insurance as a service. This could be attractive for all sorts of merchants, telco operators, and so on.

This would make Trōv even more part of the context in which consumers makes decisions about the risk they’re willing and not willing to incur. And it also taps into the exponential growth of connected devices, similar to how machine-to-machine payments are increasingly taking place …

Yes. What we’re now doing with Trōv is really the beginning. Trōv is about providing our customers with exactly the protection they want, exactly when they want it. With more and more connected devices and sensors, and new data streams everywhere, we can make the whole experience so seamless they don’t have to do anything at all.

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About the author

Roger Peverelli

Roger Peverelli is a partner at consultancy VODW, specializing in customer-focused strategies in financial services. He is also co-author of 'Reinventing Financial Services. What consumers expect from future banks and insurers'.

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